tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937029335588381712.post3534552884283166535..comments2024-01-07T06:04:58.892-08:00Comments on Roots & Wings: Carol Wimber and a Century of faithAlan Frowhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13397225158817567917noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937029335588381712.post-37255925078248558942021-02-10T09:08:27.143-08:002021-02-10T09:08:27.143-08:00This is amazing. Thank you.This is amazing. Thank you.Alan Frowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13397225158817567917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937029335588381712.post-76029962901175035842018-01-06T03:17:10.021-08:002018-01-06T03:17:10.021-08:00I'd just finished posting up, at long last, mo...I'd just finished posting up, at long last, more of our Post-Wimber testimony, when this site of yours came up. Years ago we'd been trained up in Power Evangelism, were empowered,ready to church-plant in our dangerous neighbourhood, and then the Lord severely warned us to keep our hands off as He sovereignly ushered the whole neighbourhood into our house and dealt with people Himself. We could organize nothing, but He put everything together in good order and transformed and trained folks as He showed Himself to them. Back then Kevin Springer and John Wimber were writing the 'Third Wave' and wanted us to send them our account of what followed, because it was out-of-the ordinary in moves of the Spirit going on then, and astounding..<br /> That was thirty years ago. We've seen what lasting fruit came of the people brought to the Lord that way, complete with the defaults. I'd say the 1/5th the Lord talks about,as being a good return, pretty much fits. A few are ministers today, some internationally. All were impacted. Lives were permanently changed. A number went their own way, but permanently marked and unable to deny His existence.<br /> What comment I want to make is that John's Quaker grounding has always seemed to me to be 'the elephant in the room,'and probably helps answer your question. John ministered out of a settled position with the Lord, arrived at via knowing to sit and wait upon the Lord as only the Quakers know how. He sat under it for years. That yieldedness undergirded all his teaching, all his training practices. Others didn't have this, and John never registered that lack in them, much, nor emphacized the point about himself, perhaps because it was so deep in his foundations he'd lost awareness about it. But I think it's key to knowing what matters most.<br /> I'm 73 and I've come to believe that that depth of knowing the Lord personally is the true depth of anyone's maturity, and produces what's right, most valuable to Him, and that lasts. I don't think we can divide into newcomers and settlers, power-impacted and the persistant plodders. To see Him is to be whelmed by Him, always more, it makes for a Moses-meekness ( teachability) all our long lives. It can fade or increase, sometimes in seasons. But seeing Him is everything, and is always becoming more. "When we see Him we shall be like Him," doesn't just apply to the afterlife. Holiness,and integrity, and our good actions, ever grow, through that sight. That state of being settled, to attend and to hear, was a major factor in John's make-up and ministry. It made for his very great obedience, - nothing could make him swerve from what he'd seen and heard of the Lord, not even church politics.<br /> I'm so glad the Yorba Linda fellowship has embraced their son. May we all have it said of us, as it can certainly be said of him, "They knew the Lord." The trail we leave behind will be a mercy and goodness that will have followed us all the days of our lives. It has to be enough.<br /><br /> 'Nuff sed.<br /><br />Blessings,<br />L. Grace L. Gracehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01907119610560806947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937029335588381712.post-81844365030255594232012-12-08T14:00:11.452-08:002012-12-08T14:00:11.452-08:00You're so right, Eric.You're so right, Eric.Alan Frowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13397225158817567917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1937029335588381712.post-2128399182421255892012-12-06T20:04:46.323-08:002012-12-06T20:04:46.323-08:00Both will take our life's entirety to more ful...Both will take our life's entirety to more fully express in us: That good work (our character) that God began in us, and a consistent administration of the Spirit's power working outward for His glory.Eric Gunterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09643046734195846842noreply@blogger.com